tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955811945563810411.post5164653255776012176..comments2012-10-01T22:45:06.414+01:00Comments on the painted desert: Hal Capone's guns don't h'arguejoe butlerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10124060105960856008noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955811945563810411.post-33586062970848008942012-06-23T17:20:27.935+01:002012-06-23T17:20:27.935+01:00thanks joe soon as i said that about americanos i ...thanks joe soon as i said that about americanos i knew he would be a brit good old sods law in action once again! LOL well yes to all you say Joe of course that's how things went, there was an eastern spirituality element and smoking weed and tripping out of course but then there was also the strong anti-business and strong "feel the vibes, man" approach to just about everything which meant considerable cynicism about politics and business people on one side, OR very strident Marxism and Trotskyites on the other. "Come the revolution," as you will recall was a very common phrase along with 'do your own thing' and "too much far out!" so yes those were interesting times alright! man! i also think the hippies kind of pretended they were classless which was a bit of a joke cuz most of them were educated and from middle class homes...petenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955811945563810411.post-57583725377519598582012-06-23T16:55:20.307+01:002012-06-23T16:55:20.307+01:00Hi Peter
The substantive question for me is, was t...Hi Peter<br />The substantive question for me is, was the hippy philosophy a middle class phenomonen?<br />I am prepared to concede that some of the kids and artists at IOW came from working class backgrounds. Many working<br />class kids who went to grammar schools and art schools were exposed to middle class culture and went on to become middle class.<br />What Thatcher and Blair described and eulogised as social aspiration and social mobility. My own experience of working class skinheads who began to appear round that time was that they hated the hippies. Then the punk revolution put all the old hippies out to grass.<br />and of course many of the hippy generation went on to become bastions of the establishment.<br /><br />What was the intellectual and philosophical grounding of the hippy movement? Eastern spirituality, a rejection of consumerism,<br />a rejection of war, and a belief in 'doing your own thing". The day when the festivals put up fences and started charging<br />saw and end to the hippy dream. <br /> <br />Michael Gray btw is a brit.joe butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10124060105960856008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955811945563810411.post-90605826046055383042012-06-23T14:02:47.568+01:002012-06-23T14:02:47.568+01:00my cousin went to that concert and he was at a gra...my cousin went to that concert and he was at a grammar but me at college at the time, both working class really, but the stones concert in hyde park in 1970, which i attended, was full of middle class ppl IMO so i think the point he makes is not borne out by the evidence...its too sweeping a generalisation...and anyway what do americans even know about class they ain't got any!? oh dear, better take a walk...petenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955811945563810411.post-34292494683011652672012-06-21T09:20:38.941+01:002012-06-21T09:20:38.941+01:00My feet is my h'only carriageMy feet is my h'only carriagejoe butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10124060105960856008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955811945563810411.post-83140960893613873012012-06-20T18:05:33.657+01:002012-06-20T18:05:33.657+01:00Think I'll go for a walkThink I'll go for a walkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955811945563810411.post-32223842134122268692012-06-20T10:57:50.375+01:002012-06-20T10:57:50.375+01:00Wow Anon
I really appreciate your thoughtsWow Anon<br /><br />I really appreciate your thoughtsjoe butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10124060105960856008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955811945563810411.post-84267958769082313902012-06-19T20:44:58.149+01:002012-06-19T20:44:58.149+01:00Hmm...Hmm...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com